Date

, 12:30-1:30 EST

Attendees 

  • Harvard: Michelle Durocher, Amy Armitage, Mary Jane Cuneo, John Hostage, Karen Carlson Young
  • Stanford: Greta De Groat, Joanna Dyla, Margaret Hughes, Nancy Lorimer, Kay Teel, Vitus Tang
  • Cornell: Jason Kovari, Sarah Ross, Roswitha Clark
  • Texas A&M
  • UCLA
  • Chicago
  • Colorado-Boulder
  • Institution/participants – are there others?  – please add yourself!

Agenda

Harvard ISNI practitioners will answer questions and engage in discussion with PCC ISNI pilot participants. This is meant to supplement the Participant questions and answers page. Topics covered will include:

  • Learning curve: ISNI web portal > WinIBW client: briefly discuss the Harvard model in which we implemented a Harvard Quality Team
  • Logins: concurrent/individual
  • Wiki navigation/are you finding what you need
  • Some questions from the "Participant questions" page
  • Future conversations: by topic?
  • fill in your questions!

Notes from the meeting

Sept. 20, 2017: this description of the ISNI databases isn't entirely accurate! See "Databases" on the Getting started with ISNI and the ISNI web interface page for better information.

ISNI databases

A point about the ISNI databases (from What is an ISNI > Databases on the Getting started with ISNI and the ISNI Web Interface page): Within ISNI there are 3 primary views or databases:

  1. Public view=(www.isni.org) no need for a user ID; includes only records with status “Assigned”
  2. Member view=as a member, the entire database is available, but some data  from some sources is considered "private" and cannot be seen. Members have maintenance capability via the web interface
  3. QT view=access to a higher level of maintenance via WinIBW client

There is also a test database for both the member view and the QT view called Accept, which is used for training. What you do there does not affect real records.

PCC ISNI participants are currently using #2, the member view/web interface. To handle more complex tasks, such as merges, forcing provisional records to assigned status, and some editing tasks, #3, the WinIBW client (QT view), can be used. For PCC ISNI pilot participants: keep this idea on the horizon!

  • At Harvard, after getting our staff comfortable using the web interface, we formed a Harvard Quality Team. Our QT works in the WinIBW client (QT view) because more complex tasks can be performed in it than in the web version. The QT is comprised of our most advanced catalogers because some of the tasks can require a high level of expertise and analysis.
  • The web version also has some quirks (getting booted out of a certain screen, or certain error messages), and working in the WinIBW client avoids these problems.
  • Harvard's QT handles these complex tasks instead of ISNIQT. When PCC ISNI pilot participants are ready to take on this role for their institution, we should have a conversation with ISNIQT about how to scale these tasks.

Q&A

In progress: answers being added to the "Participant questions page

What are you doing with your ISNIs?

Interesting topic! Harvard is using some of ours with LD4P and FacultyFinder. What are you doing?

4 Comments

  1. In the Document, How to use the ISNI web portal, under the section, Editing a record, it states that “If (your institution (XXXX)) is not already a source on the record, it must be added before any further editing of the record.” Does each participating institution in the Pilot Project a have unique code (e.g., UCLA); and if so, where is it located? Or do we all use the same code (e.g., PCC)?

     

    In the ISNI database we discovered erroneous data that had been harvested in VIAF from an OCLC bib record (891127112): in this instance, a work is incorrectly attributed to an established identity (both authors share the same personal name). Aside from placing a note in the appropriate space for QT to review, is there anything else we should do? How can we prevent this error from recurring? How far back in the harvesting sequence do we have to go (ISNI ßVIAF ß OCLC)? Is this issue something to be explored when we begin developing policies and guidelines?

     

    Do ISNI searches cover only persons and organizations? What about works (as does VIAF)?

    1. Hi Paul,

      I've copied these questions onto the PCC ISNI Pilot Q&A page (in the Participants section) for our call today.

      Thanks,

      Amy

  2. 1. There is a field for type of content (I don’t remember the name exactly).  It is not controlled as far as I can tell. You get mixed messages in the documentation as to whether you should use it or not (one says most have decided not to use it, the other seems to be saying that they are using it).

    2. There is a field for creator with a controlled list of roles. There is a field for contributor with no roles. Contributor seems to say that it should be used for performers, but actors and musicians are listed in the creator field. So it's not clear what we should do with actors. It seems more useful to go with the field that has the roles.

    3. There doesn't seem to be a year associated with the related work (records generated from NARs have them, though, from the 670 field).  When you don't have birth and death dates, it can be useful to have that year as it's often a clue to when the persons years of activity are (though less useful with films, though, since we've used the date of publication when the film itself may be much older, similarly with reprints).

    I notice that data pulled from LCNAF via VIAF puts the work's date after the title, presumably pulled from 670 $a that way. If creating an ISNI from scratch, could you do that?

    4. I tried to create an ISNI for a guy with no surname.  He uses one name, Mfumu.  I found his fuller name online which I used to create variant names.  But, surname is mandatory in the Name and Name Variant fields.  So I moved Mfumu to the Surname field and clicked on Save Changes which kicked me back to the login page. After loggin in again, I see that a record for Mfumu has indeed been created, yay.

    5. I also got kicked back to the login page after Save Changes on a record I created, and when I logged in, the record was indeed saved (phew).

    6. It didn't happen on the other records I created. I wondered if it happens when it takes a long time to create the record. When it happened to me I had been consulting documents as I went, and it took quite a while. Or maybe it just happens randomly?

    7. Are we expected to look up the related org. or person in ISNI to find that number? Documentation says Pica production number of the related person/org. in the ISNI database, if known.

    8. Could you please confirm that or Creation class we should be now using 2 letter codes from MARC 21 leader/06 and leader/07 (http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bdleader.html).

    9. I have a person who is both an actor and singer but in the work I cite he is only an actor.  Do I have to use only "actor" as a role and not use singer since he is not associated with the work in that capacity? Is that field associated only with the cited work?  I found out about his singing while doing research for the NAR, where I was ok with adding both professions.

    10. In the existing records for PNs, I saw names of publishers but when I was creating a new ISNI entry, I did not see a place to enter the publisher in a template (I used the internet interface).

    1. Hi Joanna,

      I've copied these questions onto the PCC ISNI Pilot Q&A page (in the Participants section) for our call today.

      Thanks,

      Amy